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		<title>By: I-dont-want-to-be-innundated-with-spam Hrishi</title>
		<link>http://sifybroadband.techwhack.com/167-22032005-talking-about-idiocies-in-the-indian-telecom-scene#comment-2071</link>
		<dc:creator>I-dont-want-to-be-innundated-with-spam Hrishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be good if you substantiated your claims with actual references, rather than just links to the publisher.

As to your claims:

1. Reliance never was the best of companies -- and they always did try to get away with everthing (like a lot of companies in India). Only this time, they failed.

2. &quot;Giving away the network&quot; is not a bad thing in and of itself. Badly managing a unified network resource is the problem, one which is EASILY technically solved (provided you have competent enough engineers and non-intrusive management -- I&#039;ll intentionally _not_ use the word intelligent)

3. Whats wrong with using celebrities in ads? Everyone does it -- if the celebrities endorse it, it must be good (aka the Govinda getting elected syndrome). Similarly, how did you draw a correlation between the phone line and CONCEPTION? Birth maybe, but conception? come on!

4. Access Deficit Charge: I was talking to someone recently, who said that we should just pay whatever is the percieved value of a telephone connection to rural areas, and not provide telephone service there. Your argument is similar -- namely that ADC is a burden imposed on non-BSNL users. Guess what -- ADC is also imposed on URBAN BSNL SUBSCRIBERS and *ALL* (including BSNL) mobile subscribers. ADC is meant to fund BSNL&#039;s rural telecom operations, and not &quot;reduce competition in urban areas&quot;.

5. Where / How the *#!&amp; does Infy come into the picture? and if Infy does, so do _MOST_ other software companies in the indian &quot;silicon valley&quot; which serve US/EU customers and not indian ones.

6. Number portability is a fairly new concept, so given the above idiocies (in your own words) is it really fair to expect a successful number portability implementation from a bunch of idiots?

Was your post supposed to be intelligent? doesn&#039;t seem that way, at least from its content ...

And no, I don&#039;t have a blog. See http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=banish</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be good if you substantiated your claims with actual references, rather than just links to the publisher.</p>
<p>As to your claims:</p>
<p>1. Reliance never was the best of companies &#8212; and they always did try to get away with everthing (like a lot of companies in India). Only this time, they failed.</p>
<p>2. &#8220;Giving away the network&#8221; is not a bad thing in and of itself. Badly managing a unified network resource is the problem, one which is EASILY technically solved (provided you have competent enough engineers and non-intrusive management &#8212; I&#8217;ll intentionally _not_ use the word intelligent)</p>
<p>3. Whats wrong with using celebrities in ads? Everyone does it &#8212; if the celebrities endorse it, it must be good (aka the Govinda getting elected syndrome). Similarly, how did you draw a correlation between the phone line and CONCEPTION? Birth maybe, but conception? come on!</p>
<p>4. Access Deficit Charge: I was talking to someone recently, who said that we should just pay whatever is the percieved value of a telephone connection to rural areas, and not provide telephone service there. Your argument is similar &#8212; namely that ADC is a burden imposed on non-BSNL users. Guess what &#8212; ADC is also imposed on URBAN BSNL SUBSCRIBERS and *ALL* (including BSNL) mobile subscribers. ADC is meant to fund BSNL&#8217;s rural telecom operations, and not &#8220;reduce competition in urban areas&#8221;.</p>
<p>5. Where / How the *#!&#038; does Infy come into the picture? and if Infy does, so do _MOST_ other software companies in the indian &#8220;silicon valley&#8221; which serve US/EU customers and not indian ones.</p>
<p>6. Number portability is a fairly new concept, so given the above idiocies (in your own words) is it really fair to expect a successful number portability implementation from a bunch of idiots?</p>
<p>Was your post supposed to be intelligent? doesn&#8217;t seem that way, at least from its content &#8230;</p>
<p>And no, I don&#8217;t have a blog. See <a href="http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=banish" rel="nofollow">http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=banish</a></p>
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		<title>By: I-dont-want-to-be-innundated-w</title>
		<link>http://sifybroadband.techwhack.com/167-22032005-talking-about-idiocies-in-the-indian-telecom-scene#comment-124752</link>
		<dc:creator>I-dont-want-to-be-innundated-w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be good if you substantiated your claims with actual references, rather than just links to the publisher.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As to your claims:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1. Reliance never was the best of companies -- and they always did try to get away with everthing (like a lot of companies in India). Only this time, they failed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2. &quot;Giving away the network&quot; is not a bad thing in and of itself. Badly managing a unified network resource is the problem, one which is EASILY technically solved (provided you have competent enough engineers and non-intrusive management -- I&#039;ll intentionally _not_ use the word intelligent)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3. Whats wrong with using celebrities in ads? Everyone does it -- if the celebrities endorse it, it must be good (aka the Govinda getting elected syndrome). Similarly, how did you draw a correlation between the phone line and CONCEPTION? Birth maybe, but conception? come on!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;4. Access Deficit Charge: I was talking to someone recently, who said that we should just pay whatever is the percieved value of a telephone connection to rural areas, and not provide telephone service there. Your argument is similar -- namely that ADC is a burden imposed on non-BSNL users. Guess what -- ADC is also imposed on URBAN BSNL SUBSCRIBERS and *ALL* (including BSNL) mobile subscribers. ADC is meant to fund BSNL&#039;s rural telecom operations, and not &quot;reduce competition in urban areas&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;5. Where / How the *#!&amp; does Infy come into the picture? and if Infy does, so do _MOST_ other software companies in the indian &quot;silicon valley&quot; which serve US/EU customers and not indian ones.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;6. Number portability is a fairly new concept, so given the above idiocies (in your own words) is it really fair to expect a successful number portability implementation from a bunch of idiots?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Was your post supposed to be intelligent? doesn&#039;t seem that way, at least from its content ...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And no, I don&#039;t have a blog. See &lt;a href=&quot;http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=banish&quot;&gt;http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=banish&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be good if you substantiated your claims with actual references, rather than just links to the publisher.</p>
<p>As to your claims:</p>
<p>1. Reliance never was the best of companies &#8212; and they always did try to get away with everthing (like a lot of companies in India). Only this time, they failed.</p>
<p>2. &#8220;Giving away the network&#8221; is not a bad thing in and of itself. Badly managing a unified network resource is the problem, one which is EASILY technically solved (provided you have competent enough engineers and non-intrusive management &#8212; I&#39;ll intentionally _not_ use the word intelligent)</p>
<p>3. Whats wrong with using celebrities in ads? Everyone does it &#8212; if the celebrities endorse it, it must be good (aka the Govinda getting elected syndrome). Similarly, how did you draw a correlation between the phone line and CONCEPTION? Birth maybe, but conception? come on!</p>
<p>4. Access Deficit Charge: I was talking to someone recently, who said that we should just pay whatever is the percieved value of a telephone connection to rural areas, and not provide telephone service there. Your argument is similar &#8212; namely that ADC is a burden imposed on non-BSNL users. Guess what &#8212; ADC is also imposed on URBAN BSNL SUBSCRIBERS and *ALL* (including BSNL) mobile subscribers. ADC is meant to fund BSNL&#39;s rural telecom operations, and not &#8220;reduce competition in urban areas&#8221;.</p>
<p>5. Where / How the *#!&#038; does Infy come into the picture? and if Infy does, so do _MOST_ other software companies in the indian &#8220;silicon valley&#8221; which serve US/EU customers and not indian ones.</p>
<p>6. Number portability is a fairly new concept, so given the above idiocies (in your own words) is it really fair to expect a successful number portability implementation from a bunch of idiots?</p>
<p>Was your post supposed to be intelligent? doesn&#39;t seem that way, at least from its content &#8230;</p>
<p>And no, I don&#39;t have a blog. See <a href="http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=banish">http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=banish</a></p>
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		<title>By: sooraj s</title>
		<link>http://sifybroadband.techwhack.com/167-22032005-talking-about-idiocies-in-the-indian-telecom-scene#comment-438</link>
		<dc:creator>sooraj s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BSNL is not drawning tax payers money.it is a separate company owned by the government.
the government doesnot pay any thing to it.

it pays the following things to the govt. and the public.

1.spectrum charges.
2.license fee.
3.dividend to shares owned by govt. of India(100% shares)
4.pension to the employees retired from DoT(Dept. Of Telecom),ie 
     those retired before formation of BSNL.
5.Serve the loss making rural ares of the country 
     as a social obligation.where as its profit share is eaten by
     private companies in urban areas with which BSNL manged to 
     fund the loss making service of Rural INDIA.
6.it has the lowest tariff in all the services.
     which keeps the other privete operators at lower rates 
     inorder to keep themselves in market.
7.it is one of the major employer to lacks of employees.

there are faults,incompatibilities due to its huge size,diversity in services,portion of untrained staff and govt. of indias out dated recruiting policies.but sure,BSNL is an &quot;UNSUNG HERO&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BSNL is not drawning tax payers money.it is a separate company owned by the government.<br />
the government doesnot pay any thing to it.</p>
<p>it pays the following things to the govt. and the public.</p>
<p>1.spectrum charges.<br />
2.license fee.<br />
3.dividend to shares owned by govt. of India(100% shares)<br />
4.pension to the employees retired from DoT(Dept. Of Telecom),ie<br />
     those retired before formation of BSNL.<br />
5.Serve the loss making rural ares of the country<br />
     as a social obligation.where as its profit share is eaten by<br />
     private companies in urban areas with which BSNL manged to<br />
     fund the loss making service of Rural INDIA.<br />
6.it has the lowest tariff in all the services.<br />
     which keeps the other privete operators at lower rates<br />
     inorder to keep themselves in market.<br />
7.it is one of the major employer to lacks of employees.</p>
<p>there are faults,incompatibilities due to its huge size,diversity in services,portion of untrained staff and govt. of indias out dated recruiting policies.but sure,BSNL is an &#8220;UNSUNG HERO&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: sooraj s</title>
		<link>http://sifybroadband.techwhack.com/167-22032005-talking-about-idiocies-in-the-indian-telecom-scene#comment-124751</link>
		<dc:creator>sooraj s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BSNL is not drawning tax payers money.it is a separate company owned by the government.&lt;br&gt;the government doesnot pay any thing to it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;it pays the following things to the govt. and the public.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1.spectrum charges.&lt;br&gt;2.license fee.&lt;br&gt;3.dividend to shares owned by govt. of India(100% shares)&lt;br&gt;4.pension to the employees retired from DoT(Dept. Of Telecom),ie &lt;br&gt;     those retired before formation of BSNL.&lt;br&gt;5.Serve the loss making rural ares of the country &lt;br&gt;     as a social obligation.where as its profit share is eaten by&lt;br&gt;     private companies in urban areas with which BSNL manged to &lt;br&gt;     fund the loss making service of Rural INDIA.&lt;br&gt;6.it has the lowest tariff in all the services.&lt;br&gt;     which keeps the other privete operators at lower rates &lt;br&gt;     inorder to keep themselves in market.&lt;br&gt;7.it is one of the major employer to lacks of employees.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;there are faults,incompatibilities due to its huge size,diversity in services,portion of untrained staff and govt. of indias out dated recruiting policies.but sure,BSNL is an &quot;UNSUNG HERO&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BSNL is not drawning tax payers money.it is a separate company owned by the government.<br />the government doesnot pay any thing to it.</p>
<p>it pays the following things to the govt. and the public.</p>
<p>1.spectrum charges.<br />2.license fee.<br />3.dividend to shares owned by govt. of India(100% shares)<br />4.pension to the employees retired from DoT(Dept. Of Telecom),ie <br />     those retired before formation of BSNL.<br />5.Serve the loss making rural ares of the country <br />     as a social obligation.where as its profit share is eaten by<br />     private companies in urban areas with which BSNL manged to <br />     fund the loss making service of Rural INDIA.<br />6.it has the lowest tariff in all the services.<br />     which keeps the other privete operators at lower rates <br />     inorder to keep themselves in market.<br />7.it is one of the major employer to lacks of employees.</p>
<p>there are faults,incompatibilities due to its huge size,diversity in services,portion of untrained staff and govt. of indias out dated recruiting policies.but sure,BSNL is an &#8220;UNSUNG HERO&#8221;.</p>
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